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Cash flow in primavera PM5

Sonia RoseMember for 17 years 11 months
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Hello,

I used to do cash flow and earned value in excel sheets.

How can I do it in Primavera PM5 with these assumptions for cash flow:

Advance payment at the start of the project
monthly expenditures on a S curve
Retention at the end of project

Thanks a lot

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    Anoon Iimos ·
    Hi,

    i suggest that you still do it in excel.
  2. 0
    Sonia Rose ·
    Hi,

    26 views without any reply. Please help

    sonia
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    Dieter Wambach ·
    Sonia
    It depends on your needs for the cash flow, so you’ll have to establish a concept by yourself. To give you an idea:

    All payments must be attached to activities. You’ll have payments for a specific date (--> milestones) and payments spread over a certain time (e.g. Level of Effort). Don’t be too complicate.

    Cash out:
    - Man hours multiplied by price, can be one activity per role or one activity with more roles.
    - Purchasing with down-payments --> milestones with expenses.
    - Overhead: LoE with an expense, spread over duration
    Cash in:
    - Milestones in a different WBS than the other activities.
    Cash in you can regard as expenses multiplied by -1.

    If the project’s time-frame does change, cash flow will change accordingly.

    How to print the curve? Unfortunately P5/P6 are not leading edge in graphical outputs, but you can creat a report in CSV-format which can be processed by EXCEL. --> Print-out of the curve will be in EXCEL.

    This is just one idea. It will depend on your needs for %-complete as well.

    Good Luck!
    Dieter
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    Sonia Rose ·
    Thanks Dieter,

    Could you please ewplain me how to do it in Primavera?

    Assuming I have only contract value that will be spread over activity duration with 1- first month advance payment 2- cost distributed as an s curve 3- Retention at the end of activity

    how can i model this using primavera and then export the details to excel to allow me plotting the curve

    Thanks a lot
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    Dieter Wambach ·
    Sonia
    Let’s assume, retention to be paid after a warranty period of 12 months. You’ll have two milestones for cash in in their own WBS: Advanced and retention payment. No in-between payments?!?
    "cost distributed as an s curve" is nice. It means the accumulated cost will be displayed as an s-curve, the curve for costs then is bell-shaped. Does some body want to make a fun of you? (Quelqu’un veut se môquer de toi?) This is absolutely too vague. But you’ll have freedom and can choose a curve with a flat curve to make the costs earlier. As you can’t attach expenses to a curve, you’ll have to use a dummy-resource. Assign this resource to a LoE between Project start and finish with a budget of x Dollar and attach a bell-shaped curve to this assignment. Then you’ll create a report from the group "activities" grouped by WBS.
    Ask for more data. For my opinion this curve you’ll better draw manually.

    Hope this helps.
    Dieter
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    Sonia Rose ·
    Thanks for your time

    I have already the S curve data

    now how can i export this to excel file ie to have the cost of each activity distributed over months following the S curve that i had already created in primavera?
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    Dieter Wambach ·
    Sonia
    Ask your employer to join a training.

    View (Left side of P6-window) "Reports" --> right mouse button --> select "ADD" --> mark "Time distributed reports" --> select "Activities" --> you’ll be guided by the wizzard, don’t forget to enter a name --> Output to ASCII will create a csv-file. For the separator you’ll have to check: mostly ;, sometimes , or blank does work.
    This csv-file you can open in EXCEL.
    Good luck!
    Dieter
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    Sonia Rose ·
    Thanks, This was very useful.
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    Sonia Rose ·
    Hi Dieter Wambach

    Sorry to bother you again. but when opening the report with excel, the cells are text format and I can not plot curves based on these infos. how can I have numbers?

    Thanks
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    Dieter Wambach ·
    Hi Sonja
    Check for field delimiters and text indicator. Check with different combinations.
    You should open the file in EXCEL, not import.
    Some time ago I had this problem as well. Unfortunately I don’t remember how I solved but I assume it was one of the above items.
    Good luck!
    Dieter
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    Sonia Rose ·
    Thanks

    I find it. you should modify the report and the click on the cell properties and uncheck "format text cell"

    Thx very much

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