Petrochem Vacancy

Hi Richard,
Can I know what kind of product the petrochem produce.

regards

Hi Raja,

Obviously petrol, with the name Esso, and probably the normal by products.

Regards

Philip

Actually by knowing the product like METHYL TERTIARY BUTYL ETHER, STYRENE MONOMER PROPLENE OXIDE or Fertiliser i can imagine the plant looks like and what the Process equipment they use. Another thing, are they going to shutdown overall Plant or several Equipment only.

regards,

Hi Clive,

Petro chemical, is actually two words combined, meaning fuel and any other chemical industries, what makes it different to other industries is the hazards involved, if you would like a listing of all the types of chemicals, I could send you a decent database. The point is that ESSO is a petrolium based company, and the spin off products, from oil, is fairly standard. This is a bit different from coal to fuel, or gas to fuel, the technology which is based in my country, if you have ever heard of SASOL, an international player in these markets. Sasol as a matter of interest has had the grasp on these technoligies, coal to fuel for more than fifty years. So keep your tutt-tutts to yourself, until you really know what is going ong on, and answer Raja’s question. Get a life

Hi Philip and Clive,
Get a Life, yes i’m learning now, as long people like Philip and Clive and still in PP. he he..

I can say both of U like Modern Shakespear, Very intresting with instant pop up idea.

sorry what are you saying you dont know where fawley is
you dont know what a PLANNER DOES
You think that Clive and Philip should not commet on your opinion maybe you should move to Burma thats close and seems to think the waY YOU DO
oSCAR

Oscar,
Nothing to embarrass about working in Burma, Why?
U need assistant or what... dont be ashame to tell us, u got the offer and need sombody for replacement. Shame on U.

May god bless U

Hi Clive,
I think fascile is not the word, but devious explains it.

Regards

Raz
Maybe you should read the ethics and intetrests section
Burma
Freedom of speech
Elected leaders never taking office and being placed under house arrest
and you ask me whats wrong with working in Burma
Of course if there is oil all other factors can be discounted and if required you can invade another country to make sure you keep it.
Oscar
PS will keep you posted if I need a petro planner

Hi Clive,

I told you, "purely civil guys got scared because of their ignorance" (in oil and gas).

Too late for you to get involve in oil and gas. Just stick with building works, your expertise. At least for me I pass by with flying colors in my debut in the oil and gas.

I know SASOL. The company set up shop (actually a big, big plant) in Qatar to use there technology, GAS to LIQUID. I also know SASOL from South Africa.
I got involved with SASOL preparing proposal in reply to ITB.

Cheers,

charlie

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When you take an island like Melkoya and flattening it for process footprint/take chunks out of it for barge insertion/tunnel to it to get guys and equipment across/blast it to get materials and more tank farm space
is not the "purely civils" involved in the oil and gas process?

2. Its never too late to switch direction. Its not exactly as if you are starting from scratch.

Wow! At long last! I am up there with moderated subscribers. And not a swear word, a green/blue joke mentioned.

Shocking!

Hi Gwen,

Congratulations, send me a mail about the the first part, would love to know, a I have been moderated (censored) and deleted a lot of times.

Other than that I think you hit the nail on the head, as multi-disciplinary has been the route for the the last three decades. You cannot wear blinkers, and the training people receive in engineering, whatever discipline, should be broad enough in simple terms, as their experience and evolution as engineers, to understand the other disciplines, and embrace them in time. As a student in civil eng, I studied principles of electricity, mechanics, hydraulics, etc, taught to us by lecturers from the mechanical and electrical fields respectively. If people do not understand the sister disciplines, how do they interface? Ok, it is not within everybodies ambit to know and understand it all, the basic principles is what we are taught and if we understand them, life becomes simpler. It is not only only in the ares of engineering where this applies, but in all walks of life. You are either a specialist in one field, with a basic understanding of other fields, or somebody who has a good understanding of all fields, with no speciality, in which case you use the specialists to help you, basically a facilitator.

Regards
Philip

By the way Gwen it is a good idea, to copy any contentious posting, so that if they are deleted, you can forward them to interested parties. This cuts out the rigours of moderation and censoreship. You are obviosly hitting the bounds of what the moderators can handle.

Hi! Gwen,

I agree with you, it’s not too late to switch discipline from Civil,to Oil & Gas, can you include Power Plants.

I’ve been there before in Kuwait 1985 to 1987 (Mina Azzur),in Qurayyah (KSA)to Oil & Gas in Malaysia, well now I’m back to Power Plant again!!! wow!!

Not metioning Musul in Iraq, it’s just a Pipe line.

It’s fun... :)

Jerry

Hi Jerry,

A pump is a pump, and takes hours to install, acable is pulled and terminated, the problem in bad ground conditions, with geotech surveys, design and the rest is a bit more complicated, so life becomes interesting, putting it all together, for comisioning to take over, and the is the satisfaction

Hi! Philip,

I understand what you mean. But commissioning group can only take over if the MC is issued and signed.

Electrical cables and wirings can be terminated even if the weather is not that good. But can be consider, Life is too short, enjoy life the fullest.

Hi! Gwen, whats up, i did’nt hear you for a couple of weeks?

Regards,

Jerry

Hi Jerry,

Agreed, but there is also the IC’s, EC’s. The IC’s normaly the elusive bits, if you do not understand loopchecks and the instrumentation habits.

Regards and enjoy

Philip

Philip,

Please do not under estimate people like us...I assure you that i can even do Instrument Calibration, Equipment Alignment using the latest Laser instrument for aligning Ratating Equipments, Pressure Vessel Bundle Pulling and Retubing,you name all the discipline I can tell you how to do them, as long as it is related to Oil & Gas Petrochem and Power plant (Boiler & Cogeneration)but sorry to tell that i don,t give copies of Work Method Statement, JSA and Procedure.

I work hard for it, so i will keep them my self, this includes the Work Breakdown Structure (WBS).

I don,t need to lift my own chair around here but, I have to say something based on experienced.

I think i’ve been too far.

Kind Regards,

Jerry

Hi Jerry,

I understand where you are coming from, it was just a comment, and not a lifting of chairs.

Regards
Philip

Hi Clive,

Not devious, Maybe just showing who you are

speaking of being moderated,

I really feel bad because it was the first time i acknowledge the post of Mr. Clive Randall, however, some friends of Clive question my motive, including free tour to hong kong. The guy is a jealous guy so what to do.

The whole post was moderated.

being moderated is not a big deal. We do need the moderator and I accept whatever judgement from the moderator.

cheers
charlie

Philip

You’re a touchy one.

Just for the record: Petrochemical is any chemical derived from fossil fuels.

Sasol is a very new player in the international markets and I don’t think the first plants were built until around the 70’s / 80’s. (though I may be wrong on the last part) What was it, Secunda, then Ookiesfontien.

Richard

As for the Job, Fawley is ok and living around the New Forest is very pleasant but reading through the replies I do not think you are going to get many takers on this one.

Hi Geoffrey or is it Richard,

Your observation is quite incorrect, as there is a town in the Orange Free State, just south of the Vaal river called SASOLBURG, their number plates used to start with OIL, and as far as I know, the HQ of SASOL is still situated there. I was born in 1951, and I can remember SASOL all my life as memories go. I believe the the company, and their technology, was started somewhere around the lat forties, however, I speak under correction. The word Secunda, is from Portugues, which means second, hence we refer to the plants as SASOL two and three. I have no connection with SASOL, except I use their fuels in my cars, as they seem to work better than others, and I have also worked on some of their projects.

A question to you is why are they the world leaders in coal to oil, and gas to oil technology, and I am touchy?

Well said Clive, but retain your honety, but when you are vexated, let the steam blow off a bit

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