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Democracy vs Totalitaranism

Philip JonkerMember for 21 years 11 months
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Hi all,

This is a matter that is close to my heart.
The point is we have moderators, but the facts are up to them, and uni-lateral decisions.

1:Where is free speech involved this. Somebody tells my I work in a protected environment, which I have never done in my life, and I post a suitable reply which gets deleted, and the thread is locked. Heil Hitler, to the moderators. The tools of democracy is No 1 freedom of speech.

2: The next problem is that the moderator does not have to give his name, so if he has a grudge, against you, for whatever reason he can censor you.

3: Planning is a discipline for thihkers, and as such should be treated in that way. If we carry on this way we might end up in the dark ages. The Spanish Inquisition could also have been claased as moderators. Who is the next one to be burned at the stake. An interesting book, but quite boring, is the "Rule of Four" and it revolves around the point here, where certain people was trying to destroy all good knowledge in the interest of their own agendas, fortunately the was people interested in saving the good things. Later you had Hitler, and we all know the result.

Maybe we need a general forum, which is day to day issues, like the recent London bombings, with no holds barred, where we can discuss normal issues, amongst planners, as we perceive it. Do we have tunnel vision, or are we futuristic?

I agree with moderation in a sense, but not censorship, especially if only part of the posting is censored. So Basta to the moderators. I have pissed on their batteries before

Regards

Philip

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    Sen Moc ·
    Stacey/Larry,

    Another option is to blocked the member from posting for a certain period of time, say a month for the first offense, 2 months for the 2nd, etc. To avoid any personal interest or abuse, only PP admin can do the blocking functions. Members will be the one to recommend, say if there are 10 recommendations then the member will be blocked.

    This is just a suggestion.

    Regards.
    Sen
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    Sen Moc ·
    ..or perhaps, if the member acquired a total (cumulative) of say 5 posts edited by the moderator then the member will blocked automatically for a certain period.
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    Philip Jonker ·
    [Deleted by Moderator.]

    As a matter of interest, you claim I was name calling, what did I say?

    Regards

    Philip
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    Larry Blankenship ·
    [Deleted by Moderator.]

    As far as eschewing obfuscation, if expressing myself at a level above 3rd grade insults and blather is obfuscation, then I proudly plead guilty.

    Now go away, the adults are having a conversation.

    Larry
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    Oscar Wilde ·
    oooh philip if only my gramar would allow me to be likened to a can opener
    oh dear dear
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    Larry Blankenship ·
    According to Wikipedia (confirmed by a google search as well)

    "Moffie is a derogatory word for homosexual used in South Africa. It literally means ’glove’ in Afrikaans, and originated from the idea that men who wore gloves were homosexual.

    The term is considered as offensive in South Africa."


    I apologize for the derisive tone I took in my most recent post. I momentarily lost my temper and resorted to the very tactics I have been criticizing.

    My sincere apologies to the can openers as well. Some of them are quite well spoken.

    Larry
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    Ronald Winter ·
    Some contributing members of this discussion thread seem to assume that if you are talking about censorship, then you are exempt from the rules of this organization concerning profanities and personal attacks. Let me assure you that this is not the case. No extra allowances are made here. This particular forum can and will be closed and deleted in its entirety if this sort of behavior continues. The participants causing this deletion may not be allowed to remain as members.
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    Larry Blankenship ·
    I believe that the moderation was done equivocally, without prejudice to the South African slang or my penchant for comparing people to small appliances.

    At this point, I would like to see the matter dropped, as it’s a waste of valuable screen space.

    Larry
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    Darrell ODea ·
    Yep,

    It has all gotten side tracked quite a bit.
    Why not drop it now, and start up a fresh thread?
    What say, - "Democracy vs Totalitaranism 2" ?????

    All the best,

    Darrell
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    Darrell ODea ·
    Clive,

    Be my guest.....but ask a "good" opening question.
    And see if you can get people to stick to da pint.

    All the best,
    Darrell

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