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Yes you got it - WE DO NOT NEED THE TRUE FUNCTION OF ENTERPRISE. THIS IS THE POINT, IF YOU DO NOT NEED IT IT DONT COMPLICATE THINGS, IF ON THE OTHER HAND YOU NEED IT, GET IT.

- we dont use nor need time cards for scheduling functions, some of our Contractors keep track of employees at the job level using hand recognition systems integrated into their accounting and job costing, not into their scheduling sotware. I guess those with Timberline Accounting could integrate both, but do not.
- our contractor’s dont use named resources at the planning level they use trades, they let front end supervisors distribute their crew.
- they all have Structured EPS / OBS / RBS
yes even RBS, they have crews.
- we use Expedition 9.0 on the Web for our needs, a great product not substituted by a CPM tool. Although not a true Document Control System it is our best option, above available true document control systems.

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    Gün Göksu ·
    I was going to start a thread for the following simple question.

    =>importing in P3ec.

    but thanks to you I now know there is better.

    I have to get it!

    I have to use it. I have to learn its insides.

    thats the best news I have had P3 related for ages.

    its been veeerrryyyyy long in comming.

    do they offer student discounts? anyone?

    Thank you for the news.
    :))
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    Gün Göksu ·
    Question: is this P3 v5 you are talking about in fact P3ec v5.0 ?

    Best wishes. :)
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    Steve Keys ·
    Yes
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    Gün Göksu ·


    Is a demo (or time limited) version of the P3ec v5.0 available? I need to check with my own eyes how good that import/export issue has been resolved before I suggest an upgrade here.

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    Naveed Tariq, PE, PMP ·
    Dear GUN

    You have to check with your PAR. Some times if they feels you are committed to purchase software, they may offer you with a demo software.

    Otherwsie you can ask them for a hands on working demo.

    Cheers!
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    Marcio Sampaio ·
    Until this day, Primavera is not offering demo version of 5.0.
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    Gün Göksu ·
    Thank you very much to all who have replied to my last post.

    I’ll talk with our PAR.

    :)
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    Jorge Taguinod ·
    Actually, PARS (at their discretion) can install Primavera Enterprise for interested clients. This license expires every end of March.

    So if you’re a good sales lead, they may decide to install a fully working Primavera license.

    Happy convincing...
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    Steve Keys ·
    As a PAR employee (and former Primavera employee) I must contradict the last post. PARs are NOT allowed to installed their NFR (not for resale) copies of Primavera software on behalf of clients or prospects.

    However, at their discretion, PARs may order an evaluation copy of Primavera software with a standard configuration including all modules and with a time bombed license (typically 30 days). You will find that a good PAR will likely insist on the client / prospect undertaking some formal training and / or professional services assistance during the evaluation process.

    This is to ensure the proper and effective transfer of knowledge from both an application and technology perspective, and to make sure there is a proper commitment on both sides to a fair and appropriate evaluation process, with associated success criteria.

    Demo CDs, on the other hand, do not exist (and rightly so, I might add).

    Mario is right to point out the fact that users can upgrade to Primavera v5 from P3 and undertake an evaluation period to determine the best fit for purpose, and you can find out more at http://www.primavera.com/customer/products/p3upgrade_faq.asp.

    However even during this process I would strongly recommend that you engage your local PAR for assistance during implementation and at the very least undertake some form of re-orientation training on the new application.

    Those familiar with P3 will appreciate some help navigating the different User Interface, and in general you will be able learn more about some of the new features available in v5 to make a more informed choice.
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    Jorge Taguinod ·
    Steve Keys has provided the complete explanation on what it entails to have an evaluation installed. I stand corrected on any misconception my short message may have conveyed.

    Best regards,

    Jorge
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    Alex Wong ·
    of course Steve is on the spot.
    being one of the director of Primavera Australia, he explain it well..

    ^^

    Alex
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    Arthur Godbeer ·
    My good friend Steve has regrettably left Primavera Australia and is now in a senior but non-PM related position. So I doubt that he is still reading these posts. But I have no doubt that his overall knowledge about Primavera remains unequalled by most or all of the rest of us here.

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