Management vs Leadership?
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Norzul IbrahimMember for 20 years 10 months
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There seems to be several studies, researches and books being published to explain the distinction between management and leadership.
Is there such differences? Appreciate your inputs. To kick off the discussion, I was told that management is about "things" whereas leadership is about "people". Do yu agree?
norzul
There seems to be several studies, researches and books being published to explain the distinction between management and leadership.
Is there such differences? Appreciate your inputs. To kick off the discussion, I was told that management is about "things" whereas leadership is about "people". Do yu agree?
norzul
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Oldest first- 0Chris Oggham ·Hi Clive,
To answer your question, I would expect a project manager to be able to manage a project (ok a bit trite, I know); not necessarily to be an expert on management theory, but to have a sound working knowledge of management practice. Personally, I think that a knowledge of the theory is also useful, not just for project managers but for anyone in a management position.
Where a knowledge of management theory is essential, is where you try to advance a viewpoint like the one in this thread. If the originator isn’t familiar with management theory, they are going to find their arguments refuted, because they have no basis in fact. When that happens, irespective of how they style themselves, they just end up looking ridiculous.
Chris - 0Carmen Arape ·Charlie and Clive,
I am most interested in meeting both on the same table. But If someone who admires General McArthur can not sit together with someone who’s his dream leader is Margaret Tatcher, I would love having a separate dates with each.
Charlie,
I would love talking with you about leadership in a Man’s world of Construction Project (as you mentioned on post #33) . It is not about woman’s place in this world, It is about understanding the scandal associated to a BP executive who resigned from BP after admitting lying over affair with gay lover. Here, there is an example of 41 years of career in a male business in one of the TOP 3 Oil Companies. Was he a leader ?? being gay.
Cheers,
Carmen - 0Charleston-Joseph Orbe ·Carmen,
It will not be possible for me and Clive to sit in the same table with you.
We have different strong and leadership personality. Just make deductive reasoning of our post and come up with your own conclusion.
Im not in the alcohol drinking socializing function anymore. After more than 20 years of drinking alcohol, all i got is liver schirosis.
So....
Is it possible that you will drink the beer or any type of alcoholic drink while I will drink only MILK or mineral water.
In this way we can plan and we know what to expect.
Cheers,
Charlie - 0Douglas Byles ·G’day all,
Interesting discussion, (not the least of which is Amsterdam).
I always think of Leadership as "The ability to instil in others the will to want to follow." i.e be led.
I think it is a key component of a good manager, but a good leader may not be a good manager.
I see people every day, whom their employees really enjoy working for, but their departments are just not achieving the results.
Other depts have great results but the people are being "managed" to achieve that and are less satisfied than others.
- 0Carmen Arape ·Clive,
Being part of the group of doing things with moderation, I will be delighted to sit with you in Rome with a bottle of Chilean wine for you (for instance,Casillero del Diablo) and a bottle of Balvenie for me.
How can we persuade Charlie to sit with US. First, accepting him the way he socializes with Milk. No jokes about that. Second, avoiding any topic regarding planning and leadership.
If we believe we are successful planners and leaders in our fields, why to talk bout that.
What are we going to talk about , Planners and PM Consultants. I will propose, woman and man relationship.
Looking forward to hearing your topics.
Cheers
- 0Charleston-Joseph Orbe ·Carmen,
You made sense.
But believe me, woman and man relationship discussion is very normal for people with Spanish blood.
The english gentlemen are very shy of their EMOTIONS.
Believe me Carmen, it will be an uphill climb to arrive at something manageable in this kind of conversation.
OF course I agree with your post.
Cheers,
- 0Carmen Arape ·Clive,
My topics:
1.- If you had the opportunity to choose your career again, what would you choose. And WHY
2.- Favorite film and why
3.- A book that has influenced your life.
4.- Is China a sleep giant?. Will China become the next Empire??
5.- Being EXPAT for many years, what is your opinion about cultures and human beings.
6.- South America. Are we born corrupted.
Charlie,
Knowing Clive and my topics, please SAY YES.
Cheers
- 0Charleston-Joseph Orbe ·Jerry,
What we have on board is Carmnen.
I found her sensible in the way she post in PP.
The other gals are for you to give an opinion. I prefer to withhold my opinion of the others, but, believe me, Carment making sense of our planning planet.
Just like you, I live in the man’s world of construction. From sunrise to sunset, it is always a battle to get the work done my way, no other way but "MY WAY".
When I worked in Malaysia, I worked at Head Office. My boss was a female. The first time and the only time I worked with a female boss. She was very gentle to me. Then and then, I know it was different if girls are the leader. We did a lot in changing the way we did our work in an effective manner. Eventually, she left me for a better offer and my new boss was .... So it was war, a war I loss.
So we will see where this thread will lead us.
Cheers,
Sensei
Successful Project Management Consultant
- 0Carmen Arape ·Gentlemen,
Fully agree with Clive that planning is boring. What make the activity interesting is the planner’s
Attitude. You mentioned “wide perspective on life”. This quality is not everybody, just for FEW. How can you get it, Sorry to say that you can not buy it in the supermarket.
Sensei, thanks for your words, make me feel well.
To those who are in the list of most active Discussion Forum contributors, I would like to say that I can read your threads without being bored. I can make another comments BUT no boring. Specially two contributors I find their threads estupendos (no English word). No need to mention names because they know WHO they are.
Cheers, - 0Jerry Alivio ·Hello Brad,
I hope at this moment you are in good health. Well, if you are now doing some sort of Planning or if you are a Planner, I think you land in Airport, you suppose to be in a Sea Port. For me, If ever I’ll signed contract to be a Planner or a Manager it is guaranteed that i love my job, it’s a very simple "logic", if you don’t like it, you quit, If you like love it and be proactive.
Cheers! - 0Kritika Pandey ·
The main difference between
The main difference between leaders and managers is that leaders have people follow them while managers have people who work for them.
A successful business owner needs to be both a strong leader and manager to get their team on board to follow them towards their vision of success. Leadership is about getting people to understand and believe in your vision and to work with you to achieve your goals while managing is more about administering and making sure the day-to-day things are happening as they should.
WHILE THERE ARE MANY TRAITS THAT MAKE UP A STRONG LEADER, SOME OF THE KEY CHARACTERISTICS ARE:
- Honesty & Integrity: are crucial to getting your people to believe you and buy into the journey you are taking them on
- Vision: know where you are, where you want to go and enroll your team in charting a path for the future
- Inspiration: inspire your team to be all they can by making sure they understand their role in the bigger picture
- Ability to Challenge: do not be afraid to challenge the status quo, do things differently and have the courage to think outside the box
- Communication Skills: keep your team informed of the journey, where you are, where you are heading and share any roadblocks you may encounter along the way
No matter how complex your work is, you really need tools that help you simplify the process. An online or on-premise portfolio and project management tools are designed to help leaders and management tracking multiple projects, with simple to use collaboration features that extend across the entire organization.
- 0Renee Teng ·
Yes, I beieve the leadership
Yes, I beieve the leadership plays an important role in management.
When I wrote the blog on the The Leader Role in Agile Transformation, I found that managers to cooperate on the transformation with three common ways to begin transformation:
- System: the current work frame and the value of the organization. Build a cross-functional team, first focus on value and flow, and then change the practice and culture.
- Culture: the team mentality and thinking will change the structure and practice of the system.
- Practice: the method, the tool set or the framework, and then the institutional structure and culture will change accordingly.
You can read it more HERE.
Thank you.
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